3.3TT 15mm spacers or 20mm spacers? (Stock 19" wheels)

[Redfun]

No, it's black.
High performance 135/80 two - lol

Super high load index though. 104

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Thank you for showing me that, My issue is my original spaceSaver rim was a color and pattern match to my OEM 19 inch rims,During a 36,000 mile service it magically disappeared,Dealer responds that no such rim was made, still searching for truth..

 

[D.J.]

Thank you for showing me that, My issue is my original spaceSaver rim was a color and pattern match to my OEM 19 inch rims,During a 36,000 mile service it magically disappeared,Dealer responds that no such rim was made, still searching for truth..

did they steal your spare tire and leave you with nothing?

 

[D.J.]

Anyone reading this thread should probably also see this post.

15mm spacers will not work with the stock studs and stock rims..

Would be an Interference fit with the studs hitting the back of the rim pockets.

20mm spacers work... And just barely clear

Wheel spacers

Anyone know where the best place to buy stinger spacers in the uk?

stingerforum.org

 

[Brennan]

Anyone know if 275 tires on stock rims would fit in the rear with 20 mm spacers?

 

[Brian?]

I use 20mm myself with stock 19 rims
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My winter 18 steelies DO NOT FIT with the spacers, as the steel wheels do not have provisions (cut outs/pockets) for the OEM studs to fit in, since they protrude through the spacers. (I could cut the length of the original studs, but I don't want to.

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The OEM rims have nice deep pockets between the studs, so the 15mm spacers should work, if you want only a 15mm spacer.
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And I verified the spare tire also has similar provisions.
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You have the 20mm both front and rear of the car?

 

[Celatid]

Anyone know if 275 tires on stock rims would fit in the rear with 20 mm spacers?

Ever find the answer to this?

 

[Volfy]

Since there was some earlier discussion in the thread about hubcentric 5mm spacer, I thought it's worth mentioning that there are true hubcentric 5mm spacers, but not for stock wheels. I bought these for my Enkei TFR wheels to bring the 38mm offset down to 33mm, which is as close to the stock 34mm front offset as I can get it. 2) 5mm Black Hubcentric Wheel Spacers | 5x114.3 5x4.5" | 67.1 Hub to 72.6 Wheel | eBay

FWIW, unless you are just doing it for looks, I wouldn't bother putting spacers on stock wheels. They already have the correct offset for optimum scrub radius. Deviating from that too far, especially at the front wheels, and the car could have handling issues, particularly at the limits.

 

[Brennan]

Ever find the answer to this?

Nothing yet. Giving up as ill probably need to go wider than 275 in the rear so new wheels will be needed.

 

[rcorona]

Since there was some earlier discussion in the thread about hubcentric 5mm spacer, I thought it's worth mentioning that there are true hubcentric 5mm spacers, but not for stock wheels. I bought these for my Enkei TFR wheels to bring the 38mm offset down to 33mm, which is as close to the stock 34mm front offset as I can get it. 2) 5mm Black Hubcentric Wheel Spacers | 5x114.3 5x4.5" | 67.1 Hub to 72.6 Wheel | eBay

FWIW, unless you are just doing it for looks, I wouldn't bother putting spacers on stock wheels. They already have the correct offset for optimum scrub radius. Deviating from that too far, especially at the front wheels, and the car could have handling issues, particularly at the limits.

Coming to this post a bit late. But I got some 18x8.5 +30 ESR RF2 wheels and I’m thinking of grabbing 5mm(?) spacers to throw on the bring them out just a little more for aesthetics. I see that link you originally posted is out of stock. Any ideas on other TRUE hubcentric spacers?

 

[D.J.]

Coming to this post a bit late. But I got some 18x8.5 +30 ESR RF2 wheels and I’m thinking of grabbing 5mm(?) spacers to throw on the bring them out just a little more for aesthetics. I see that link you originally posted is out of stock. Any ideas on other TRUE hubcentric spacers?

Well, that would all depend on your specific rims center bore

What is your center bore?

 

[Volfy]

Coming to this post a bit late. But I got some 18x8.5 +30 ESR RF2 wheels and I’m thinking of grabbing 5mm(?) spacers to throw on the bring them out just a little more for aesthetics. I see that link you originally posted is out of stock. Any ideas on other TRUE hubcentric spacers?

Looks like ESR RF2 in that size has a 73.1mm bore. This is actually the same as my latest Enkei RP01 18x8.5. I use these on the RP01's:

5mm Black Hubcentric Wheel Spacers | 5x114.3 5x4.5" | 67.1 Hub to 73.1 Wheel

You'd need to verify that, of course.

And if you need to search, Google "5mm hubcentric spacers 5x114.3 67.1 to 73.1", or whatever your wheel's bore diameter is.

 

[rcorona]

Well, that would all depend on your specific rims center bore

What is your center bore?

72.6

 

[D.J.]

72.6

The good news is, If you can find 5mm hub centric adapters for your exact usage case...

5mm hub centric spacers 5x114.3 67.1 hub to 72.6 rim

Then you would no longer need any centering rings. (Win win)

 

[rcorona]

The good news is, If you can find 5mm hub centric adapters for your exact usage case...

5mm hub centric spacers 5x114.3 67.1 hub to 72.6 rim

Then you would no longer need any centering rings. (Win win)

Thanks for the help! I’m fairly new to spacers

 

[Volfy]

72.6

Yep, ESR's own website lists it as 72.6mm. I originally looked it up on Fitment Industries and they listed it as 73.1mm. That's yet another reason I don't like them too much.

I also just did a search and sure enough the ebay seller was the only one that has them. Didn't know they are that rare, since I had no problem buying both 72.6 and 73.1 from them. May be my posting their ebay listing online got them sold out... who knows. Maybe contact them to see when they will have the next batch?

 

[rcorona]

Yep, ESR's own website lists it as 72.6mm. I originally looked it up on Fitment Industries and they listed it as 73.1mm. That's yet another reason I don't like them too much.

I also just did a search and sure enough the ebay seller was the only one that has them. Didn't know they are that rare, since I had no problem buying both 72.6 and 73.1 from them. May be my posting their ebay listing online got them sold out... who knows. Maybe contact them to see when they will have the next batch?

Yeah thats weird about Fitment Industries. I've bought 2 sets of wheels/tires from them because they're the cheapest I've been able to find...

I just messaged the seller on ebay, hopefully they'll be able to get the next batch out so I can grab some. Thanks for the help!

 

[Thomby]

Just to add my 2 cents' worth to the thread, I went with 20mm, pretty much identical to what @D.J. showed (down to the foam "spacer" packaging) but with black hardware.

On a 2022 AWD GT2 with 19s, I had no issues with fitment, rubbing at full lock, or steering articulation. My install process was:

1. remove wheels, lightly rub wheel mounting surface of rotors with sanding block to knock down the bit of surface rust where the wheels contacted them, wipe clean of residue with 3-in-1 oil on rag
2. test fit spacer and wheel, confirm no movement radially (ie hub does in fact center spacer to rotor and wheel to spacer), drop car, move steering lock to lock to confirm fit
3. remove wheel and spacer, thin coat of anti-seize on back of spacer, small amount of blue Loctite (243) on factory studs, install spacer to hand/drill tight
4. for fronts, be sure jack is stable (ie backup jack or jack stand) and wedge wrench/board between studs and ground since you have to fully torque in the air
5. torque spacer nuts to 50-60 ft-lbs, then 85 ft-lbs
6. mount wheel, put lug nuts on hand/drill tight, drop car, torque to 50-60, then 85
7. repeat on other 3 wheels (but no need to repeat step 2)
8. test drive (slow roll with windows down for sound/feel, then at speed for any vibration from non-concentricity)

Probably spent 45min on the first wheel with the test fit and re-install etc, then maybe 15min apiece on the other three. While there wasn't any play radially (up/down/left/right), the spacer hole tolerance around the studs allowed a little bit of rotation, but when I held the spacer turned to its limit in one direction (maybe a degree/couple mm), hand tightening a nut would pull it back to center.

I'm happy with the look and didn't feel anything different on the test drive -- no vibration, no change in low-speed steering effort, etc. Haven't done any aggressive driving yet.

 

[D.J.]

Just to add my 2 cents' worth to the thread, I went with 20mm, pretty much identical to what @D.J. showed (down to the foam "spacer" packaging) but with black hardware.

On a 2022 AWD GT2 with 19s, I had no issues with fitment, rubbing at full lock, or steering articulation. My install process was:

1. remove wheels, lightly rub wheel mounting surface of rotors with sanding block to knock down the bit of surface rust where the wheels contacted them, wipe clean of residue with 3-in-1 oil on rag
2. test fit spacer and wheel, confirm no movement radially (ie hub does in fact center spacer to rotor and wheel to spacer), drop car, move steering lock to lock to confirm fit
3. remove wheel and spacer, thin coat of anti-seize on back of spacer, small amount of blue Loctite (243) on factory studs, install spacer to hand/drill tight
4. for fronts, be sure jack is stable (ie backup jack or jack stand) and wedge wrench/board between studs and ground since you have to fully torque in the air
5. torque spacer nuts to 50-60 ft-lbs, then 85 ft-lbs
6. mount wheel, put lug nuts on hand/drill tight, drop car, torque to 50-60, then 85
7. repeat on other 3 wheels (but no need to repeat step 2)
8. test drive (slow roll with windows down for sound/feel, then at speed for any vibration from non-concentricity)

Probably spent 45min on the first wheel with the test fit and re-install etc, then maybe 15min apiece on the other three. While there wasn't any play radially (up/down/left/right), the spacer hole tolerance around the studs allowed a little bit of rotation, but when I held the spacer turned to its limit in one direction (maybe a degree/couple mm), hand tightening a nut would pull it back to center.

I'm happy with the look and didn't feel anything different on the test drive -- no vibration, no change in low-speed steering effort, etc. Haven't done any aggressive driving yet.

Very rough calculations suggest there is OVER 10,000 lbs of clamping force per wheel stud.
over 50,000 lbs of clamping force per wheel at 85 ft-lbs
Tight.

 

[Thomby]

Yeah that math is reassuring, but it's as much paranoia about something like forgetting to do a final torque once on the ground (I did a final pass at the end) or having chinesium counterfeit fasteners...at least there are 5 apiece to hopefully notice a bad one!