Discussion of Stinger paint quality (Was - Paint Chip Issue)

[MerlintheMad]

@Fred Pahlke No. Clearly not all Yellows have bad paint. What is the production run period for these cars? It seems that even most of the Nov and Dec 2017 cars are okay. Something happened during that time to ruin some paint jobs. But most of the cars made even during that suspicious period seem fine.

I repeat, if I had a pristine Yellow I would not be getting it repainted, if, after several to many months it had not shown any signs of chipping/flaking. I'd act as though my universe does not have any failing paint and ignore all this angst going on: it doesn't concern me. Why would a pristine Yellow be any different than any of the other colors that are fine? It doesn't make any sense to assert that "all Yellows are time bombs". There isn't any evidence for that. A Yellow that failed did so early, even from the getgo. That Yellow I saw back in March, that was returned last week, was PRISTINE. It was not in any way compromised. In fact, for a car with half worn out tires, the paint looked showroom mint condition.

 

[Tonkabob]

Oh, I see. Not good at all. Of course I have a yellow GT2 with 6000 miles and zero paint issues and wonder what everyone is talking about. Of course, I still have to decide on a repaint or the other options on a perfectly mint car. I do have a GT2 Yellow Stinger and from what I was told by the dealer, that trim in yellow is quite rare. That said... I'm sure they did the same crap job as every other yellow. Just wondering why I haven't had issues.

I think the impacted non yellow chip worse than the yellow but not all cars are affected. We also chip to metal instead of to primer.

 

[Expert4]

Let me clear up some things I’ve recently read on this thread. First off there will be no sharp paint lines as it is protocol for all lines to be blended as per the Kia reps, dealership and Linda. There is specific guidelines in place that are asserting a top quality respray. I understand some shops will do better work than others so be diligent in choosing who is doing the work.

I posted in an informative detail that it takes 45-60 days to complete the exchange or buyback after you submit your paperwork.

Yes I’m disappointed that we are going thru these “inconveniences” but who has ever seen a car company step up with anywhere near these type of acceptable options. If you truly expect more than what is being offered than your sense of entitlement will get the best of you no matter what is offered as a solution.

 

[Fred Pahlke]

Is your b.ild date in nov or dec?

Yes, and that is not good.....but not every car built in Nov and Dec has showed paint problems,

 

[Ucinn]

Mine is a 12/17 and has a couple flakes off metal parts, one on the A pillar passengers side and a pretty good size one on the roof. I have both headlighs flaking and had 3 chips on the bumper in the two weeks between ownership and PPF.

 

[Sabz]

I’ve never looked at my date but has few chips and headlight is rubbing paint off bumper so after she gets repainted I’ll open a case for the bumper

 

[Keith Ruff]

12/17 build date. Just found a few more random flake spots on hood and top of fender. 2200 miles. My dealer is working with a local shop (top one in my area) to have them gather the materials required for the repaint, looking at Sept to start the process. Will see how it comes out and go from there. Nice to have options. For those so po'd about it, just turn the car in for rebuy and move on. At least that is an option. Or choose a different color. Or use the 5K to paint the other bits of the car not covered by Kia. I may respray my front bumper, will get pricing to see how much the shop will charge to paint it and the remaining pieces and door jams. Curious.

 

[Joseph Cahn]

Keith, might be even cheaper/better to buy a new unpainted front bumper and paint that.

 

[Ivansito]

Or buy a whole new wardrobe. Or take your family to Disney. Or pay off some of your credit cards. Or do some home upgrades. Or Invest some money on KIA stock. Or just do whatever will make you happy that you choose to keep the Sunset Yellow. Me? Oh that's easy, FOOD SEX AND ROCK AND ROLL!!!

 

[Weareblondi]

And, this day has gotten off to a bad start, my yellow Stinger has close to a dozen paint chips. Hood, drivers door, passenger door, a pillar, roof, passenger rear quarter panel and passenger fender. Called kia n.a., spoke with my rep and logged in complaint. Just when i thought I might have the only yellow without paint issues. Oh well,still love the car, love the brand and am behind them 100%. Bring on the repainting!!!!!!!

 

[MerlintheMad]

And, this day has gotten off to a bad start, my yellow Stinger has close to a dozen paint chips. Hood, drivers door, passenger door, a pillar, roof, passenger rear quarter panel and passenger fender. Called kia n.a., spoke with my rep and logged in complaint. Just when i thought I might have the only yellow without paint issues. Oh well,still love the car, love the brand and am behind them 100%. Bring on the repainting!!!!!!!

You waited to say all that so you could refute my assertion that if there is a problem with a Yellow it will manifest early. Fine. I'm used to being refuted.

 

[forzanerazzurri]

Or buy a whole new wardrobe. Or take your family to Disney. Or pay off some of your credit cards. Or do some home upgrades. Or Invest some money on KIA stock. Or just do whatever will make you happy that you choose to keep the Sunset Yellow. Me? Oh that's easy, FOOD SEX AND ROCK AND ROLL!!!

To be fair, you could have bought a used civic and done all of that and more.

 

[NoVAGT2]

And, this day has gotten off to a bad start, my yellow Stinger has close to a dozen paint chips.

Terrible news. About how many miles did it take for the paint chips to show? I wonder with the yellows if it is not a matter of if, but when.

 

[Ivansito]

I had chips on hood on 2nd week. Could have been on hood from dealer but I wasn't inspecting the car like that. I mean, who does? Within the 3rd week I had purchase the touch up paint and move on with life. I don't see it as a mile issue, its more of a prone issue. The paint did not bond properly, so its prone to flaking when tiny particles unintentionally hit it. Chips are normal. But when you can literally pry of the surrounding edge of the chip with little effort, then there is a problem.

 

[NoVAGT2]

Good point. I was just thinking of the possibility there might be degrees of improper bonding which might manifest itself later. I'm not brave enough to pry around the edges of my headlamp chips!

 

[Mach_Tuck]

Let me clear up some things I’ve recently read on this thread. First off there will be no sharp paint lines as it is protocol for all lines to be blended as per the Kia reps, dealership and Linda. There is specific guidelines in place that are asserting a top quality respray. I understand some shops will do better work than others so be diligent in choosing who is doing the work.

I posted in an informative detail that it takes 45-60 days to complete the exchange or buyback after you submit your paperwork.

Yes I’m disappointed that we are going thru these “inconveniences” but who has ever seen a car company step up with anywhere near these type of acceptable options. If you truly expect more than what is being offered than your sense of entitlement will get the best of you no matter what is offered as a solution.

I am curious with the paint line from the rear quarter panel to the door jamb area...how to suppose that can be blended when the SB specifically says NOT to paint the door jamb? Would there not be a sharp line at this point? Perhaps they will paint it with the doors on and blend across and no thought will be given to the door jamb to rear quarter blend?

 

[Mach_Tuck]

Good point. I was just thinking of the possibility there might be degrees of improper bonding which might manifest itself later. I'm not brave enough to pry around the edges of my headlamp chips!

Mine peeled up easily after the fact...My PPF is within a few mm of the flake so it stopped it there...without PPF i would not have attempted to tug on it.

 

[Keith Ruff]

Just got back from the auto body shop doing the respray on my Stinger in Sept, turns out he and his wife know my wife through an old neighbor, so I feel much better as he has been in business for over 30 years and was recommended as the best in my area. We are going to stay in contact during the process.

I asked him a bunch of questions we all have asked on this board and got educated answers from an expert in the field:

1. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the issue was with the prep of the metal surfaces. The reason Kia is not repainting the plastic is because the prep and paint process for plastic is different, there was no issue with that process. All plastic comes off the car and set aside during respray of the metal parts.

2. I asked if there would be an issue with color mismatch, he said even if he sprayed the plastics, it would never perfectly match because of the different materials (metal vs plastic) then showed me the mismatches in the sun already on my stock factory paint job.

3. Reason for not painting door jams is because they rarely see sun. He said the real issue is that exposure to the sun's UV causes a reaction in the paint and undercoating, because they didn't prep the undercoating correctly, the sun then causes the reaction that is causing the problem. Door jams won't see the sun much therefore we probably won't see the problem in that area which is why they aren't repainting that area.

4. As for how to blend edges without noticing, bumpers come off for respray, he said windows come out as well and then the open area gets masked from the interior. As for door jams, there is a stick on foam that goes on the door jam edge where the door closes to provide the match line and overspray from getting in. He said this product provides an invisible blend line and works well.

I took pix of the entire bulletin Kia sent him if anyone is interested. I can post it here but it's 9 pages. Basically it is as described above. Kia does not want to go down to the metal, he said they will if he has to but the issue was with whatever they rubbed on the undercoating prior to paint, they thought it was dry and ok to use but it was not and didn't allow the paint to stick properly. Cleaning up and re-prep of the undercoating before respray will fix the issue.

I hope this answers some of the questions posted. If there are anymore, let me know and I'll ask him.

 

[somedudedontknowwhoheis]

...but the issue was with whatever they rubbed on the undercoating prior to paint, they thought it was dry and ok to use but it was not and didn't allow the paint to stick properly. Cleaning up and re-prep of the undercoating before respray will fix the issue.

So did I miss the part of this that is specific to Yellow cars?

 

[Keith Ruff]

Instructions were on the bulletin for Yellow Stingers, question would be if this prep process existed for all colors? I guess only Kia can answer that question....