As we are getting closer...who will install an oil catch can - or already uses one?

[moinmoin]

It's another slow day in the Stinger Forum, let's stir the pot a little:

Oil Catch Cans

• Do you know what it is?
• Are you using one in your present turbo charged car?
• What is your experience with your present install?
• Do you have plans to install one in the Stinger, particularly with a 3rd party tune?

Check this out:
https://blog.modbargains.com/turbo-car-need-oil-catch-can/

 

[admonite]

It sounds like a good preventative measure. It always amazes me the headaches that are created by these improved technologies. My car is still a naturally aspirated port-injected model and it has an actual steering column (2009 G8)....so when I read (or hear) about new maintenance issues caused by Direct Injection (exacerbated by turbo-charging) , or that the steering feel is as good as can be expected for an electronic setup I make mental note of these things as a possible reason not to spend the money on a new car. That being said....Direct Injection and turbo-charging definitely help performance, so I probably won't dwell on it for very long. (Well...except the steering...but the vehicle should be lighter without the extra mass)

 

[Kia Stinger]

I've had a few boosted cars and never actually used an oil catch can. What do they cost? I imagine they're pretty cheap to buy and install...

 

[RMA]

I am currently running this in my 2015 SXL Optima...
https://www.lap3usa.com/blank-m1ivk/saikou-michi-lap3usa-oil-catch-can
According to my KIA Tech it has not accumulated much oil since the install a year back, but I am a big fan of LAP3 products and plan to do their ECU upgrade which was just recently launched (if I do get a GT). Bumps the GT Stinger to 420 hp vs the base 376 hp currently.

 

[moinmoin]

I followed this subject for many years on the F150 forum, where these cans a fairly popular. How much they catch depends on the boost, how you drive and the design of the can. They go price wise from a ridiculous $350+ on Google & Amazon to $18 or so on aliexpress.
Essentially it's a container with a couple of hoses and connectors and is trying to accomplish what cyclone dust collection in you woodworking shop does: getting the rough stuff out of the airstream, and in the case of the motor, prevent it from burning again.
I am even thinking of installing two cans linked together: what the first one doesn't get, the second will. Anyway, I think it's cheap insurance.

 

[srtcrazy05]

i used to have one on my srt-4 and i need to get a new one back in there. they are great, cheap, and good peace of mind.

 

[moinmoin]

I'll probably order two of these:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Uni...lgo_pvid=8cf97cbe-5f5f-4ad3-9c24-a811d7ca6f5f

Universal Black Baffled Aluminum Oil Catch Tank Can Reservoir Tank with 9mm/15mm Fittings and Oil dipstick

US $23.00 /piece

US $13.05 to Canada

 

[app_master]

Yes, Id fit one to the Stinger.
Although I'd aim to use proven design for the TTv6.

All 3 cars in our garage have them now; 3.0 turbo diesel ute/pickup, bmw n20 turbo motor and hyundai 1.6 T-GDI too.
Respectively I have used the Provent 200, BMS n20 and the same Aliexpress one as listed above.

Damn be DI and Turbos. Least they (power/torque) put a smile on your face when needed/used.

 

[moinmoin]

Yes, Id fit one to the Stinger.
Although I'd aim to use proven design for the TTv6.

All 3 cars in our garage have them now; 3.0 turbo diesel ute/pickup, bmw n20 turbo motor and hyundai 1.6 T-GDI too.
Respectively I have used the Provent 200, BMS n20 and the same Aliexpress one as listed above.

Damn be DI and Turbos. Least they (power/torque) put a smile on your face when needed/used.

I've ordered two in purple (lol). Proven design? If you are a bit handy, you could make one yourself. A popular part to use is the air-drying filter for compressors. Just have to get rid of ant plastic filters and replace with stone (lava?) filters. I just wanted a bit more professional look, not something cobbled together. If you are reallly anal, you could throw a piece of alu bug screen into the can (cut a disc) and add that to the baffle.
This is my first and probably last turbo.

 

[app_master]

I've ordered two in purple (lol). Proven design? If you are a bit handy, you could make one yourself. A popular part to use is the air-drying filter for compressors. Just have to get rid of ant plastic filters and replace with stone (lava?) filters. I just wanted a bit more professional look, not something cobbled together. If you are reallly anal, you could throw a piece of alu bug screen into the can (cut a disc) and add that to the baffle.
This is my first and probably last turbo.

I guess by "proven" I meant an off-the-shelf that is unlikely to crap out and get sucked down your induction system....and yes I agree if you're handy get stuck right in.

 

[moinmoin]

I guess by "proven" I meant an off-the-shelf that is unlikely to crap out and get sucked down your induction system....and yes I agree if you're handy get stuck right in.

The oil catch cans I ordered arrived a couple of days ago. I am quite impressed. Machined from billet aluminum, not pressed, stamped or otherwise, the mounting bracket is cut from an extrusion, has a little dipstick to check on the level, and the baffles can be unscrewed and possibly be enhanced with some filter material of your choice. All in all, very well made and very strong.
The piece of hose that is included with the can is not really suitable for a vacuum system and will be replaced. All in all, beats building your own.

 

[app_master]

The oil catch cans I ordered arrived a couple of days ago. I am quite impressed. Machined from billet aluminum, not pressed, stamped or otherwise, the mounting bracket is cut from an extrusion, has a little dipstick to check on the level, and the baffles can be unscrewed and possibly be enhanced with some filter material of your choice. All in all, very well made and very strong.
The piece of hose that is included with the can is not really suitable for a vacuum system and will be replaced. All in all, beats building your own.

That kit is pretty good. Chuck a brand name on it and sell it for $200.

 

[moinmoin]

That kit is pretty good. Chuck a brand name on it and sell it for $200.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone is doing it already on ebay or amazon. But for US$32.00, which includes shipping (and they are heavy), it can't be beat.

 

[app_master]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone is doing it already on ebay or amazon. But for US$32.00, which includes shipping (and they are heavy), it can't be beat.

True that, buddy. Put up a pic once installed...

 

[Taimaishoo]

I plan to install at least one, maybe two. Just all depends on where I can fit it in, if two will fit, and how the color will match, etc. etc. I had one in my Veloster Turbo and I would clean it out after oil changes, just because. It never really got too full but there was always oil/water/debris/dirt/whatnot in there.

 

[Keith dunkinson]

I'd check it has no impact on warranty (ought to improve it but you never know). I have had loads of turbos and generally run them to about 60k in three years. I have never had an issue (but never stripped them down either). Also in the US, you tend to change the oil very often whereas here in the UK our service intervals tend to be much longer.

 

[moinmoin]

I'd check it has no impact on warranty (ought to improve it but you never know). I have had loads of turbos and generally run them to about 60k in three years. I have never had an issue (but never stripped them down either). Also in the US, you tend to change the oil very often whereas here in the UK our service intervals tend to be much longer.

No need to worry about warranty. You are just adding a small empty container into the "air stream". Hans zero effect on the engine. just keeps it clean or cleaner. I hope
I take the long range view, as I keep my vehicles well beyond the warranty period. It really does not matter where in the world you are driving, when your car/vehicle encounters "severe" driving conditions, oil change intervals change. Most owners manuals will point that out. And when translating the manufacturer's language you'll likely find, that ALL your driving in the northern hemisphere could be considered "under severe condition". Winter driving, change in temperature, sommer heat, dust, stop-and-go, daily commuting etc. If you change your cars after three years, you'll likely never find out what long intervals between oil changes have done to an engine, and you likely don't care.
I am now retired and between ALL our vehicles, probably don't drive more than 15,000 km per annum. But I will still change my oils at least twice a year. As you know, oil oxydizes just by sitting in the engine.
Oil changes are really cheap insurance, I buy 5 liter jugs of synthetic and give it to my mechanic. He charges $30 incl. filter. The jug cost me on sale maybe $25.....

 

[Keith dunkinson]

No need to worry about warranty. You are just adding a small empty container into the "air stream". Hans zero effect on the engine. just keeps it clean or cleaner. I hope
I take the long range view, as I keep my vehicles well beyond the warranty period. It really does not matter where in the world you are driving, when your car/vehicle encounters "severe" driving conditions, oil change intervals change. Most owners manuals will point that out. And when translating the manufacturer's language you'll likely find, that ALL your driving in the northern hemisphere could be considered "under severe condition". Winter driving, change in temperature, sommer heat, dust, stop-and-go, daily commuting etc. If you change your cars after three years, you'll likely never find out what long intervals between oil changes have done to an engine, and you likely don't care.
I am now retired and between ALL our vehicles, probably don't drive more than 15,000 km per annum. But I will still change my oils at least twice a year. As you know, oil oxydizes just by sitting in the engine.
Oil changes are really cheap insurance, I buy 5 liter jugs of synthetic and give it to my mechanic. He charges $30 incl. filter. The jug cost me on sale maybe $25.....

I agree with much of what you say but in my first ten years I built stripped and ran engines on cars that did upto 250k (my personal record). I have always maintained cars well, including track cars and never had a problem. UK climate is not extreme ranges from about 30-80 in a normal year. I change my daily drivers every 3 years or so now, but I know many people who have bought my old ones and they have always run well. I'm not dissing the can. might even fit one once I check warranty over here (sometimes any modification has an effect - even say an airfilter)

 

[moinmoin]

I agree with much of what you say but in my first ten years I built stripped and ran engines on cars that did upto 250k (my personal record). I have always maintained cars well, including track cars and never had a problem. UK climate is not extreme ranges from about 30-80 in a normal year. I change my daily drivers every 3 years or so now, but I know many people who have bought my old ones and they have always run well. I'm not dissing the can. might even fit one once I check warranty over here (sometimes any modification has an effect - even say an airfilter)

I know you were not dissing the can (and if you were, so what?), I read it more like being a 50/50 proposition for you. And I was not trying to convert anybody, for one, I am not an expert.
However, different engine design behave differently, and with the appearance of direct injection technology, thing seems to have gone messier in certain engines. Additionally, as gasoline is used to cool the valves, some of it may not get burned and ends up in the crank case, deluting the oil. My vehicles do not have DI engines, but reading on the truck forum, even 5 liter V8 (non turbo) can make good use of the can, and a strong smell of gas is (sometimes?) evident when inspecting the can's content. Similar stories on the turbocharged engines.
So, for $64, why not, if it saves a cleaning job at your garage? We'll find out soon enough

 

[Keith dunkinson]

How long is the warranty out there? 7 Years or 100,000 miles here but that doesn't mean I don't care. Your'e right - I'm 50/50 at the moment.