2.5t Spark Plug Replacement

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Any Stinger 2.5t owners out there that replaced their spark plugs?? Curious to see if you stayed OEM (NGK?) and also any tips/advice on doing it? I've done spark plugs before but never on the Stinger. Yes, owner's manual recommends changing out the spark plugs (2.5t engines) every 48k miles and I'm about at the half way point.
 
I have.
Post number 80, 81, and 82 no issues so far
 
I have.
Post number 80, 81, and 82 no issues so far
newbie here, how do I find those posts? I did a query search and could not locate.
 
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2.0T and 2.5T use the exact same spark plugs. Most spark plug listings won't show the correct reference, because they are not officially a direct replacement for the stock spark plugs. ILKR9Q7G is one heat range hotter than stock spark plugs and is suitable for running with and without JB4. We have been running these NGKs in our two 2.0T engines for over a year now. I will be ordering a set for our new '23 2.5T, now that I just bought a JB4 for it.
 
For Kia OEM, the 2.5 GT-Line / AWD uses Kia Part #18875-09085.

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That's the stock replacement. If you are only at 24k miles or so, there is really no need to change the stock spark plugs. Most guys switch to 1 heat range hotter for running higher boost pressure with JB4. Map 2 or higher tend to cause misfire with stock plugs. Map 1 runs fine with stock spark plugs on 2.0T and 3.3T. I have not heard much regarding the 2.5T.
 
That plug WILL work in your 2.5t, I proved it. Gap them down to about .025 and she will be ready for extra boost! LOL. @Volfy I believe you meant to say they are 1 step colder then stock.
 
@Volfy I believe you meant to say they are 1 step colder then stock.
Yes. Thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting for NGK/Denso higher is colder.

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I did the recommended replacement at c. 42K miles on my 3.3L and got a cracked plug for my pains. The car was running fine before I messed with the "recommendation". The plugs were changed but the coil packs were not even checked and one of them was bad, thus causing the cracked plug. So, this next time, I am going to leave well enough alone until it starts misbehaving, aka misfiring or stuttering. The maxim "if it ain't broke, don't mess with it", applies here. Of course, it can begin subtly. Your engine can still be smooth running but not give as much power for a while before worn plugs start to cause misfire. Either sign of worn plugs should be good enough I reckon. I will follow the same protocol on the 2.0L engine as well.
 
2.0T and 2.5T use the exact same spark plugs. Most spark plug listings won't show the correct reference, because they are not officially a direct replacement for the stock spark plugs. ILKR9Q7G is one heat range hotter than stock spark plugs and is suitable for running with and without JB4. We have been running these NGKs in our two 2.0T engines for over a year now. I will be ordering a set for our new '23 2.5T, now that I just bought a JB4 for it.
Thanks for this. I'm at 52k now, and just ordered a set. I've been running a JB4 for the past 30,000 miles with no issues on the stock plugs, but figure the 1 stage colder would be fine. Also much cheaper for the NGK than OEM (not in stock at my Kia dealer anyway) or the HKS plugs.
 
Thanks for this. I'm at 52k now, and just ordered a set. I've been running a JB4 for the past 30,000 miles with no issues on the stock plugs, but figure the 1 stage colder would be fine. Also much cheaper for the NGK than OEM (not in stock at my Kia dealer anyway) or the HKS plugs.
Curious, have you been running Map 1 or Map 2 on the stock plugs? Bout to scoop a jb4 and plan to run Map 2, but not a lot of info about the 2.5t floating around.
 
Map 2 with 93 is fine, with or without plugs. If you run a bit of E, Like E30, several of us run Map3 and Map4 with no issues.
 
Curious, have you been running Map 1 or Map 2 on the stock plugs? Bout to scoop a jb4 and plan to run Map 2, but not a lot of info about the 2.5t floating around.
Been running Map 2 99% of the time. Once in a great while, I'll switch to Map 3 if I'm able to throw 4 gallons of E85 in the tank when filling it up. I'd like to do that a bit more often, so that's why I'm switching
 
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2.0T and 2.5T use the exact same spark plugs. Most spark plug listings won't show the correct reference, because they are not officially a direct replacement for the stock spark plugs. ILKR9Q7G is one heat range hotter than stock spark plugs and is suitable for running with and without JB4. We have been running these NGKs in our two 2.0T engines for over a year now. I will be ordering a set for our new '23 2.5T, now that I just bought a JB4 for it.
After a day with these gapped how they came out of the box (.025), my 2.5t started stuttering lightly on the highway when lightly accelerating. Also developed a bit of a hesitation when pulling away from a stop after idling. Full throttle felt fine, but normal driving was probably fouling the plugs with that small gap somewhat. This was on Map 0, 1, and 2. No codes popped up when scanned, but it was driving worse than when I had the stock plugs in there. With 52k miles, the stock plugs I pulled had a gap of .035 and were in good condition. Stock gap calls for .031 to .035 from what I found for the 2.0t, as I couldn't find anything on the 2.5t. So I pulled them again and set them at .032. Thirty minutes of driving in various conditions (full throttle, gentle, etc...) and the problems disappeared. I'll do a longer relaxed drive this weekend on the highway to see if it comes back. Side note: Was very easy to change plugs on this car compared to the 3.3! :)
 
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I will be replacing my original/factory equipped spark plugs with Kia OEM. Once the weather warms up a bit, I will switch them out. Currently, I am at 28k miles. (I am aware that manual recommends at 48k miles.) I spoke with NGK tech support and confirmed that ILKR9Q7G will fit the 2.5t engine but they do not recommend it. Since my '22 Stinger is still in factory warranty, I am just staying with the Kia Part #18875-09085. Strange that NGK or Bosch do not have anything available for the Stinger 2.5t engines.
 
After a day with these gapped how they came out of the box (.025), my 2.5t started stuttering lightly on the highway when lightly accelerating. Also developed a bit of a hesitation when pulling away from a stop after idling. Full throttle felt fine, but normal driving was probably fouling the plugs with that small gap somewhat. This was on Map 0, 1, and 2. No codes popped up when scanned, but it was driving worse than when I had the stock plugs in there. With 52k miles, the stock plugs I pulled had a gap of .035 and were in good condition. Stock gap calls for .031 to .035 from what I found for the 2.0t, as I couldn't find anything on the 2.5t. So I pulled them again and set them at .032. Thirty minutes of driving in various conditions (full throttle, gentle, etc...) and the problems disappeared. I'll do a longer relaxed drive this weekend on the highway to see if it comes back. Side note: Was very easy to change plugs on this car compared to the 3.3! :)
Interesting report. I suspect low ambient temp might be contributing to that. Ideally, for a spark plug to function well, its center electrode needs to operate in a temp range of 500-950C. The main reason for going to 1 heat range colder plug (compared to OEM plug) is to compensate for a modded car's higher boost pressures and the higher temps the spark plugs are likely to experience at high engine load (WOT and high engine RPM). Keeping the electrode temp in the proper range prevents pre-ignition, which helps the engine maintain optimum performance.

However... it is possible for the electrode to get too cold (below 500C). That can happen if very low ambient temp causes IAT (intake air temp) to drop very low. That could cause the plug to lose the ability to self clean. In such a case, a colder plug would not work well, especially at low speed and normal driving.

It's a balancing act, and your engine's operating conditions need to be taken into account.

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Interesting report. I suspect low ambient temp might be contributing to that. Ideally, for a spark plug to function well, its center electrode needs to operate in a temp range of 500-950C. The main reason for going to 1 heat range colder plug (compared to OEM plug) is to compensate for a modded car's higher boost pressures and the higher temps the spark plugs are likely to experience at high engine load (WOT and high engine RPM). Keeping the electrode temp in the proper range prevents pre-ignition, which helps the engine maintain optimum performance.

However... it is possible for the electrode to get too cold (below 500C). That can happen if very low ambient temp causes IAT (intake air temp) to drop very low. That could cause the plug to lose the ability to self clean. In such a case, a colder plug would not work well, especially at low speed and normal driving.

It's a balancing act, and your engine's operating conditions need to be taken into account.

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It has been around 40F (around 4 C). Will only be getting colder here in the Chicago area for the next few months, so seems like running these with a gap that's closer to stock should do the trick. Thanks!
 
Map 2 with 93 is fine, with or without plugs. If you run a bit of E, Like E30, several of us run Map3 and Map4 with no issues.
Do you need any other mods to be pumping e? Or is it as long as youve got the jb4 in the correct map its fine to run? is there a noticeable difference in power between map 2 on 93 and map 3/4 on e30?
 
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