AWD vs RWD, and expected stock 0-60 times

[stingerwanter]

So I actually did not realize that the used Stinger I bought was an AWD until I had already made the deposit (this was several weeks ago). It was like a footnote. Though I can't lie I think I might regret it.The area that I live in and the area I intend to move to in a couple years both have no snow ever.

I've read that people are getting sub 4.7s, even 4.4 at stock. And I've read some people say that AWD is slower than RWD on the 0-60.. and I've heard the opposite too. Curious on your guys thoughts.

My reason for concern is I just bought a dragy and the lowest time I have gotten was 5.15s. Wondering if this is cause for concern or something I'm doing wrong... sport mode, launch control, not sure why I am nearly half a second off of everyone else. It is like 105-110 degrees but.. not sure if that impacts it that much.Thanks.

 

[AdamNZ]

Stock, the RWD has a faster 0-60 as it has less drivetrain loss, an LSD, and weighs about 160 pounds less than the AWD. If you add some ice or wet weather, the AWD will be faster. If you add more power via tuning, the AWD will be a lot faster regardless of weather.

 

[Transmetal]

Have we ever gotten an official 0-60 time for the awd model? Speaking of hearsay I thought I heard somewhere that the 2018 is faster and has a higher top end speed then say my 2020 awd. What about the 2022, is that the same 0-60 time basically?

Also, where do you find curb weights? Is it in the manual or actual vehicle somewhere? I'd like to think that my base awd gt is a bit lighter than say an awd gt1/gt2 since it doesn't have all the goodies but I don't think I've ever seen the exact weight.

 

[Audible Silence]

100+ degree temps will def affect performance. especially if you are doing back to back pulls.

 

[stingerwanter]

I'd like to think that my base awd gt is a bit lighter than say an awd gt1/gt2 since it doesn't have all the goodies but I don't think I've ever seen the exact weight.

According to google that is true, the GTs are lighter by a couple hundred pounds.

 

[StingertimeNC]

I would tune that thing. AWD always produces the fastest times once you have it tuned. even a JB4 Map 2 causes wheelspin on a RWD car. it can still be quick but it's much harder to launch clean. With AWD you can add significant power before you start losing traction at launch. Tuned AWD cars are posting mid to high 3's on 0-60. I've never been able to get under 4 seconds even with all my mods. I've given up trying to launch it perfectly and just enjoy the fact that I'm fast between 30 and 140.

 

[stingerwanter]

I would tune that thing. AWD always produces the fastest times once you have it tuned. even a JB4 Map 2 causes wheelspin on a RWD car. it can still be quick but it's much harder to launch clean. With AWD you can add significant power before you start losing traction at launch. Tuned AWD cars are posting mid to high 3's on 0-60. I've never been able to get under 4 seconds even with all my mods. I've given up trying to launch it perfectly and just enjoy the fact that I'm fast between 30 and 140.

I would love to, but I’m not particularly inclined with cars, as this is only my second car, and also worried about warranty should anything go wrong.

 

[StingertimeNC]

Just get a JB4. Do you have access to 93 octane? JB4 map 2 will give you a nice power bump and it's super easy to install. although you will want to upgrade your plugs as well, which is not crazy hard but if you've never done it you may want to get some help with it. I had never done it either and managed to get all the plugs swapped out except for the middle one on the passenger side. I knew what I was doing but was just a little gun shy about getting that one back in and not having the spark plug socket get stuck. I took the car in to my local mechanic and he had a swivel for his socket that was wrapped in duck tape. My swivel kept coming off as the magnet in the spark plug socket was stronger than the connection on my swivel joint. He knocked it out in 5 minutes and I was good to go.

Even if you have to pay to have the plugs gapped and installed it is well worth it for the additional power. Plus you can disconnect/remove the JB4 in like 5 minutes.

Get the bluetooth kit as well. Heck, the $1200- 450 HP kit Burger sells is the way to go honestly! All easy to install with directions and there are tons of videos and stuff.

 

[stoopid]

Just get a JB4. Do you have access to 93 octane?

Most stations in Vegas are 91 octane. I'm sure there's 93 and various ethanol blends if willing to drive/search them out.

My butt dyno says, with a proper launch in 75F weather, the AWD is plenty quick. With slightly grippier tires put on recently I'm eager to see if there's any more rump crushing potential when Fall arrives.

The Stinger is quicker than 90% of the vehicles on the road any given day.

Enjoy the car, don't get hung up on numbers. There's always someone out there with a faster car, and bigger penis.

I consider Car and Driver's 'official' test results [scroll to the bottom] to be the final word, and they got 4.6 seconds 0-60 with the AWD GT.

 

[StingerMG]

I would tune that thing. AWD always produces the fastest times once you have it tuned. even a JB4 Map 2 causes wheelspin on a RWD car. it can still be quick but it's much harder to launch clean. With AWD you can add significant power before you start losing traction at launch. Tuned AWD cars are posting mid to high 3's on 0-60. I've never been able to get under 4 seconds even with all my mods. I've given up trying to launch it perfectly and just enjoy the fact that I'm fast between 30 and 140.

You sound like me, the best launch I could get so far has been a 4.48 sec with wheel spin. Has your diff brace helped any with hooking up? Since we're both RWD.

 

[StingertimeNC]

If it has, it's not noticeable. Switching to lighter wheels didn't seem to help either, if anything maybe just makes it easier for the car to spin up the rears. I have 275's on the rear, with Pilot Sport 4S and they help some, when they are properly warm. I don't really launch it ever though anymore so I'm totally out of practice. I could get to a 4.2-4.3 range pretty easy with 2 second 60 foot times. just tough to get it all dialed in and takes so much practice I just feel bad beating on the car, LOL.

 

[StingerMG]

If it has, it's not noticeable. Switching to lighter wheels didn't seem to help either, if anything maybe just makes it easier for the car to spin up the rears. I have 275's on the rear, with Pilot Sport 4S and they help some, when they are properly warm. I don't really launch it ever though anymore so I'm totally out of practice. I could get to a 4.2-4.3 range pretty easy with 2 second 60 foot times. just tough to get it all dialed in and takes so much practice I just feel bad beating on the car, LOL.

I hear you lol. At least the 3rd gear 40mph roll pulls crazy hard. I've been planning to step up to 245s in the front and 275s in the rear. Along with the diff brace and lighter wheels.

 

[bfglitch]

I was always under the impression that a wider tire doesn't necessarily help much in 0-60 times. It helps with lateral traction (cornering) more since the contact patch is wider. I would imagine to get better 0-60, you would want a smaller wheel (18's) and a tire with a bigger sidewall. That would lengthen your contact patch allowing better acceleration. Also I would imagine if you're lowered and haven't done the work to get the camber fixed, your contact patch will be even smaller.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I was always under the impression that a wider tire doesn't necessarily help much in 0-60 times. It helps with lateral traction (cornering) more since the contact patch is wider. I would imagine to get better 0-60, you would want a smaller wheel (18's) and a tire with a bigger sidewall. That would lengthen your contact patch allowing better acceleration. Also I would imagine if you're lowered and haven't done the work to get the camber fixed, your contact patch will be even smaller.

This is pretty much the case unless you are on slicks. Wider tires don't necessarily increase traction. They do look awfully meaty though!

 

[StingertimeNC]

back to the topic, I agree, smaller wheels with more sidewall would probably be the best for off the line acceleration, but 245's and 275's look great on 19's. Handling is good so I live with the compromise.

 

[bfglitch]

back to the topic, I agree, smaller wheels with more sidewall would probably be the best for off the line acceleration, but 245's and 275's look great on 19's. Handling is good so I live with the compromise.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I mean...you COULD get wheels/tires that would help with 0-60, but probably won't look as nice. Also it would be a little less practical for daily use, if you daily your stinger.

 

[Ric 'Ochet]

Most stations in Vegas are 91 octane. I'm sure there's 93 and various ethanol blends if willing to drive/search them out.

My butt dyno says, with a proper launch in 75F weather, the AWD is plenty quick. With slightly grippier tires put on recently I'm eager to see if there's any more rump crushing potential when Fall arrives.

The Stinger is quicker than 90% of the vehicles on the road any given day.

Enjoy the car, don't get hung up on numbers. There's always someone out there with a faster car, and bigger penis.

I consider Car and Driver's 'official' test results [scroll to the bottom] to be the final word, and they got 4.6 seconds 0-60 with the AWD GT.

Go to the airport for higher octane…

The more you know…

 

[jfowler85]

Best 0-60 i've had RWD is 3.3 secs

Thats at the track on 285/35/19 Mickey Thompson ET street drag radials

On the street it is useless for me to try and launch

 

[StingerMG]

The BMS kickdown switch blocker helps with the 0-60 time. I got a 3.892 on the street while using LC.

 

[AdrianG]

I would love to, but I’m not particularly inclined with cars, as this is only my second car, and also worried about warranty should anything go wrong.

Not sure if you have decided to tune/piggyback your car yet, but the more popular tuners for the Stinger (BMS, Lozic, Lap3) know what they are doing. Personally, I think a tuned ECU would be the most simple way to go, because if something did go wrong with the car, you  could very easily swap back to the stock ECU. Not saying you should do that, or that it is "ethical", but it is doable.
Also, there are apparently some dealers who are pretty cool with owners modifying their Stingers. To what extent aforementioned dealers are cool with mods I do not know, but it's not unheard of for dealers to install aftermarket mods on new Stingers or even CPO obviously modified Stingers.