30k mile service?

[BR19GT2]

Hey all. the time has come to do my 30k mile service. this is the first car that I've ever owned that's under warranty so I want to be a good boy and make sure I'm doing all the right things but the kia dealership that's closest to me has not impressed me so far. for the 30,000 mile service it's $500 which includes a carbon cleaning treatment which, according to the service rep "they hook it up to a machine and it blows white smoke for 45 minutes". Just wondering what you all did for your 30,000 service and what it entailed. just looking for ideas and/or consistency with my dealership. I know that you're not required to take it to the dealership to keep it under warranty, but with the major mileage service intervals, I'm just wondering what's the right move.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Hi. As I recall, that one is the biggie, what goes by "Service 4" in Canada. Down here in the 48, it costs more than $700.

So, I don't know what your $500 quote is about. If you get a bad feeling about a dealership, go elsewhere.

This is the most concise and yet complete graphic of what the four different service intervals include: this isn't exclusive to Stingers, of course. It's also several years old, so the pricing is lower than what it is now (and different, anyway, because this is for Canada).

 

[BR19GT2]

Hi. As I recall, that one is the biggie, what goes by "Service 4" in Canada. Down here in the 48, it costs more than $700.

So, I don't know what your $500 quote is about. If you get a bad feeling about a dealership, go elsewhere.

This is the most concise and yet complete graphic of what the four different service intervals include: this isn't exclusive to Stingers, of course. It's also several years old, so the pricing is lower than what it is now (and different, anyway, because this is for Canada).
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Thank you very much for this wise Merlin! I'll either convert to standard or dig for the u.s one later

 

[nhcowboy28]

Dealer full of sh!t.

1) read your manual.
2) find a real mechanic.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Thank you very much for this wise Merlin! I'll either convert to standard or dig for the u.s one later

That's why I use the Canuck sheet: I have never found a US one that lists prices at all; at least this one gives a relationship in prices for the four services. The "Service 1" (basically oil and a filter with a quick check on tires and brakes) is actually very close to what the equivalent cost is in the US.

 

[BR19GT2]

That's why I use the Canuck sheet: I have never found a US one that lists prices at all; at least this one gives a relationship in prices for the four services. The "Service 1" (basically oil and a filter with a quick check on tires and brakes) is actually very close to what the equivalent cost is in the US.

That was 69.95 for me

 

[DonD]

Wow, looked at the 4 levels of service and none of them involved more than any competent, mechanically inclined car owner could do. The only one I intend to get done by the dealer is spark plug replacement.

Prices are seriously extreme, what huge money makers for the dealer. US domestic brands have none of this wacky stuff. Don

 

[chattanoogastinger]

Dealer full of sh!t.

1) read your manual.
2) find a real mechanic.

Beat me to it.

 

[D.J.]

Dealer full of sh!t.

1) read your manual.
2) find a real mechanic.

I advise to follow the manual - and not the dealer upsell chart.

Example - your manual says the coolant is good for 200,000km (10 years) - this chart has you paying to needlessly replace it at 48,000km, and again at 96,000km.

There is no white smoke in the factory service manual

 

[stoopid]

I advise to follow the manual - and not the dealer upsell chart.

Example - your manual says the coolant is good for 200,000km (10 years) - this chart has you paying to needlessly replace it at 48,000km, and again at 96,000km.

There is no white smoke in the factory service manual

Was about to post similar. That chart Merlin posted is almost all UPSELL. Oil/filter change at regular intervals, air filter change when it's getting dirty, then eventually plugs around 45,000 miles. Maybe differential and transfer case fluid sometime after that. I wouldn't even worry about transmission fluid unless the car is being tracked. I'm aiming for 60,000+ miles before worrying about it (inspecting). The car is very maintenance free compared to other similar performance vehicles. The back of the owner's manual has the requirements for different environmental conditions and how it impacts maintenance intervals to satisfy the warranty requirements. If using quality (especially top tier) gas there isn't really ever a necessity to use fuel additive. I still dump some in the tank every oil change just because it's cheap insurance, but I run techron/Mobil 99% of the time and that should be keeping the injectors plenty clean.

 

[BR19GT2]

So generally it doesn't affect the warranty if service intervals aren't performed?

 

[stoopid]

... The back of the owner's manual has the requirements for different environmental conditions and how it impacts maintenance intervals to satisfy the warranty requirements...

So generally it doesn't affect the warranty if service intervals aren't performed?

Read the service section at the back of the owner's manual.

 

[nhcowboy28]

So generally it doesn't affect the warranty if service intervals aren't performed?

You follow the manual. Not some generic interval.

 

[D.J.]

So generally it doesn't affect the warranty if service intervals aren't performed?

This is a very poor understanding. Did anyone ever suggest not adhering to the vehicle specific service intervals as specified by the owners manual which is readily available from Kia


Are you quoting something you read somewhere? Or is this a @BR19GT2 original thought?

 

[BR19GT2]

This is a very poor understanding. Did anyone ever suggest not adhering to the vehicle specific service intervals as specified by the owners manual which is readily available from Kia


Are you quoting something you read somewhere? Or is this a @BR19GT2 original thought?

Well. It was a question. My op stated that this is the first car I've owned that's been under warranty so I was looking to people, specifically the stinger community since that's the car being referred to, for guidance on how they followed the scheduled maintenance of their vehicles. So I guess to be more clear with that statement, "so generally, it doesn't effect the warranty if service intervals aren't performed... By the dealership or a certified mechanic"

I'm pretty clear on the suggestion to refer to the owners manual, which I will do.

Thanks to all for your suggestions btw.

 

[RonNSoCal]

In looking at the schedule 4 Merlin posted for 30K miles, I really do not see anything that should impact the function/ wear and tear of the car other than the oil change. There are several items that are not required according to the owner's manual, like replacing coolant and gas filter, and the rest are inspection items. Unless something is clearly slipping or leaking, while it would probably be good to have a closer look, this $500 to $700 servicing looks like window dressing to pump up the bill. I replaced the cabin filter myself a while back and will replace with a new one myself soon, but even if overdue, it should not cause a mechanical failure of any kind unless it is really full of junk.

I have to confess to being a bit off with my own maintenance schedule, especially after being overly cautious in my youth about oil changes and the like. I am now 75 and a bit senile and certainly less OCD than historically. I just pulled out the manual yesterday to look at what is needed and find I am almost 1000 miles overdue for my 30K and did not change my air filters at 24K, so shame on me. I have ordered some OEM air filters and will install or have my independent mechanic do them when they arrive, and I have my oil and filter ready to go as soon as I can get an appointment. Our last few cars required less frequent oil changes, 10K miles and the spark plugs were good for 100K miles. The air filters were easily accessible and so I checked on them frequently and replaced when needed - no strut bars to remove.

It does look like I am going to have to have the LSD fluid and spark plugs changed on my next service. Considering my negligence, the car runs great and really does not appear to need anything. I got new tires recently and keep it looking shiny and new and expect it will continue to drive fine for a long time to come, in spite of my failings. While I do not recommend being as negligent as me, these cars seem to be well built and I am not anticipating any problems, but could have fall-out with respect to the warranty if I do have a problem.

 

[G-233749]

Hey all. the time has come to do my 30k mile service. this is the first car that I've ever owned that's under warranty so I want to be a good boy and make sure I'm doing all the right things but the kia dealership that's closest to me has not impressed me so far. for the 30,000 mile service it's $500 which includes a carbon cleaning treatment which, according to the service rep "they hook it up to a machine and it blows white smoke for 45 minutes". Just wondering what you all did for your 30,000 service and what it entailed. just looking for ideas and/or consistency with my dealership. I know that you're not required to take it to the dealership to keep it under warranty, but with the major mileage service intervals, I'm just wondering what's the right move.

I just took mine in today and was told it cost over $600 for the service. I'm located in the NJ, so not sure if it would just be more expensive in my area. But same as you, I want to get it done at a dealership.

 

[D.J.]

I just took mine in today and was told it cost over $600 for the service. I'm located in the NJ, so not sure if it would just be more expensive in my area. But same as you, I want to get it done at a dealership.

What services are being performed for that price?

 

[BR19GT2]

I ended up taking a lot of people's here advice and just looked in my manual for service. I ended up doing oil change, cabin air filter (I know it's super easy, next time I'm doing it myself), tire rotation and front tire balance. the biggest hiccup that I ran into was I wanted to get my front and rear differential fluid changed and I ran into a wall with the dealership. for whatever reason they said that there wasn't even access to change the front differential which really scared me because it's a Kia dealership. then again they do share their service with Honda so I gave them the benefit of the doubt, I've never had any bad experience with the work they've done but I have not been impressed with the knowledge of the products they are supposedly experts on. In addition to not knowing where the fill plug was for the stinger, which is located on the front of the block facing the bumper, (which is not an excuse because they should have repair manuals telling exactly where and how to do everything) they said that the service interval was 65,000 miles OR if it had been submerged in water. I just rolled $36,000 mi so I'm going to address that issue later, I'm not hard on the car so I'm sure the differentials are fine. They were also unclear on whether or not the all-wheel drive had limited slip in the back. I know that the rear wheel drive GT2 has an LSD and the way that they came to the conclusion that the all-wheel drive version does not have an LSD is that they did a part search for it for my VIN and nothing came up. if anybody can confirm or deny that the all-wheel drive version GT2 has limited slip differential in the rear, that would be good info to have.

 

[BR19GT2]

By the way they wanted to charge $550 for my 30,000 mi service I ended up paying $275 for what I just listed. the biggest thing that they included that I didn't get done was Axel and other detailed inspections and a "carbon clean out" service.