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Does anyone know what the likely cause of this is? I was on the freeway and checked my TPMS and saw it was kaput; went back to my usual gauges screen, and a few minutes later the warning screen as shown here displayed in its place. (I have an oil change scheduled for the 21st Instant, and this will get looked at then also.)
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the tire pressure on all four tires is actually good right?

did you experience any flooding where you live btw? my buddy had a similar experience in his Cadillac a few days ago after the Queens NY flooding...
 
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TPMS system took its sweet time reacting, then.
the tire pressure on all four tires is actually good right?

did you experience any flooding where you live btw? my buddy had a similar experience in his Cadillac a few days ago after the Queens NY flooding...
Bone dry here: well, except for that drencher two weeks ago, but nothing on the order of flooding. I checked all four tires with a handheld gauge, all good.

As far as I know, I'm the only forum member to see this screen (a total failure of the TPMS).
 
Is this an item covered by powertrain or 3y/36K mi warranty or 5yr/60K? My guess the latter...

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Is this an item covered by powertrain or 3y/36K mi warranty or 5yr/60K? My guess the latter...
I'm assuming it's part of the five year/60K miles bumper to bumper warranty. But I'll know by the 21st.
 
Does anyone know what the likely cause of this is? I was on the freeway and checked my TPMS and saw it was kaput; went back to my usual gauges screen, and a few minutes later the warning screen as shown here displayed in its place. (I have an oil change scheduled for the 21st Instant, and this will get looked at then also.)
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It could be that the system has failed or it could be an issue with the wiring to the control module. It's located under the passenger foot well kick plate thing. I suggest you check that. I had this exact issue because I installed a remote start kit and one of the plugs was loose.
 
It could be that the system has failed or it could be an issue with the wiring to the control module. It's located under the passenger foot well kick plate thing. I suggest you check that. I had this exact issue because I installed a remote start kit and one of the plugs was loose.
All I see is a plastic cover "thing" under the glovebox: it appears to be screwed into place, and it will remain so unless/until the mechanics need to take it off (I am no gearhead like you, General :P).
 
All I see is a plastic cover "thing" under the glovebox: it appears to be screwed into place, and it will remain so unless/until the mechanics need to take it off (I am no gearhead like you, General :p).
Lol it's not that thingy, I will upload some pics of it. its held In by 3 push clip tabs no tools are required to remove.
 
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That horizontal bundle of wires is my remote start kit, the white wires green connector in the photo is the one that plugs into the control module. It has 3 connectors and one of them is responsible for tpms.
 
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That horizontal bundle of wires is my remote start kit, the white wires green connector in the photo is the one that plugs into the control module. It has 3 connectors and one of them is responsible for tpms.
Thanks for the elucidation. But really, the connector is not going to be the problem, since it hasn't been touched the entire time. (thanks for pointing out that the panel is only clipped in) I see nothing here that would compare to what you're talking about: it looks to me like a different car! :D
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Okay, late update and developments. First of all, I had forgotten this thread. :D And I evidently forgot to mention that the issue was a bad LR sensor, which, when replaced, made the whole system come back online. Until c. a couple of weeks ago. What I didn't see this time is that alarming screen in the OP pic. For most of two weeks I've been seeing the stock (startup) screen that says, "Tire Pressure: Drive to Display", and no tire warning icon in the dash.

Today was my appointment to go into Wheel Werks and find out what is what. They found the RR sensor dead.

What should have been a simple TPMS sensor replacement turned into an all afternoon back and forth journey, seeking the answer to why the TPMS screen won’t display. I left Wheel Werks before eleven-thirty and kept waiting for my psi readout to come online: clear down to 104th South and Bungler, where I gassed and shopped a few items at Costco, then home, where I called Wheel Werks and said I was coming back in.

When they scanned all four wheels, they found that the RR sensor had “unprogrammed” itself: Ray reprogrammed it, I went around the block and the psi screen came back to life (as I came around the last corner). Kelly evened up the psi in all four tires to 43 psi and I was on my way. But as I was about to exit I-215 at Redwood Rd, the psi numbers suddenly were replaced by that startup screen, so, back to Wheel Werks I went.

Ray went around all four wheels and the TPMS sensors all indicated good to go. All he could say was, “Go drive around some more and if that doesn’t work, I’ll put a new sensor in”.

I went down to Jerry Seiner and James was very helpful: he got one of the techs to hook up the diagnostic reader: it showed all four sensors good, but no psi readouts: he went out for c. twenty minutes in my car and reset everything, but the reset didn’t take. He said that he was reading an error (I can't recall what he called it). “I’ve never seen one go bad before, but I’m thinking it must be the TPMS sending module” (near as I can recollect what he called it).

James said that Kia would refuse more diagnostic work to ID the issue unless the OEM TPMS sensors were on the car, so, I needed to change wheels and see if (first of all) that made a difference, which, if it did, would show that the issue was caused by the aftermarket sensors on my TSW wheels. Also, the tech said to try lowering the psi to 38 and see if that was more “acceptable” to the TPMS sending module/system (that sounded pretty far-fetched, but hey, if I was told to try it, I’d try it).

Back to Wheel Werks I went and explained the situation, vis-à-vis needing to try the lowered psi on my way home, and later, swapping to my OEM wheels and sensors when that didn’t work. Kelly lowered the front tires to 38 psi and the rear tires to 36 psi: and the drive home changed nothing, the TPMS system remains comatose.

I'll get around to swapping my summer wheels to the OEM wheels and sensors. That won't change anything (bring anything TPMS related back to life), or I will be very surprised: after over three years of flawless operation on two sets of wheels, why would putting OEM back on change anything? It has to be the TPMS "sending module" (or whatever they call it).
 
Wow.

In the old days we checked the tires once every few weeks. If one went flat, one would feel it in the steering wheel. Technology!@#
 
I know. The feature isn't essential. But it's on the car and I so dislike when things don't work. Three full years of trouble-free operation. In my fourth year, a TPMS failure and sparkplug annoyances (cleared up starting into my fifth year): and now what is looking like a complete TPMS system failure. *sigh* I wondered why I, a Luddite, would buy a car like this. I still wonder. So many parts to fail. And time is ticking away on every single one of them.
 
Yup. My G had no sensors on the winter wheels. Little amber light would stay lit. Didn't bother me at all.

Hard to believe in 2 1/2 months it will be a year. I think it just rolled over 4K.
 
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Weird update. This morning (because of what @General_Vodka said last fall), I went back out and dropped that panel under the glovebox and squeezed every connector I could see. That small white one on the far right made a tiny click sound and barely moved together. Just now I did a quick run to the local shopping center and voila!? the psi screen is back. However, HOWEVER, before that (it only took c. five minutes if that), as I was backing out of my driveway, I got a "check system" message and warning exclamation mark over the top view of the car, with grey sensor fans in front and deeper ones in the rear. WTH?! (Never seen that warning screen before.) Each time I put it in reverse it showed that. But when I got home and pulled up to my house under the carport, the forward parking sensors worked just fine.

Electronic things, I hate, with great prejudice. "I was born in the wrong universe" (Voss, Unicorn City).
 
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Funny, what a second look, eight months later, will do. The General's pics are wholly comprehensible now. :D But I take it that his closeup of the right end connectors means that that is where the TPMS module connection is, and nothing on that side gave the slightest budge when I pushed on them: only that far left white one all by itself. Heh.
 
Funny, what a second look, eight months later, will do. The General's pics are wholly comprehensible now. :D But I take it that his closeup of the right end connectors means that that is where the TPMS module connection is, and nothing on that side gave the slightest budge when I pushed on them: only that far left white one all by itself. Heh.
Heh looks like i was right all along . Glad you have less electric gremlins now
 
Driving this afternoon was in a perfectly functioning car: the TPMS screen would display with alacrity, sometimes before rolling even two minutes; once I swear it came on almost immediately after I shifted to "D". And the "Check System!" warning as I reverse has not repeated.
 
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