Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

[Doel]

little late to the party I guess, just wanted to give my .2 cents about the 10.9 pass. I've known a lot of people in my personal life who would lie out their rear end about their 1/4 ETs just because that's the kind of person they were. I've known people to take slips from faster cars and claim it was theirs on other car forums. It wasn't to become the fastest on some internet leader board, it's just what they did, a lot of people just lie about this type of stuff to stroke their egos. I don't know Bal, I'm not saying he's a liar, I'm just saying that unless someone actually knows him personally, no one here can say his time slip is legit, or isn't.

I will say this.... strictly dealing with what we know.

He's either lying about his tires, he didn't list new wheels in his mods, or he isn't on a drag radial. Nitto doesn't make a 285 size tire in a 19" drag radial, and Nitto doesn't make a slick. No one is cutting a 1.79 60' in a RWD Stinger without at least a drag radial.

He claims to have removed 300 lbs of weight, each 100 lbs removed is good for a reduction of about .1 off the ET. The fastest Stinger we've seen on here ran a 11.58, with a draggy that everyone seems to think runs .1 fast. So theoretically, removing 300 lbs would get it at 11.38 at the track, with the same DA. But wait.... the DA was no where near the same. Tonk's DA was seriously negative, I believe he said it was 20 degrees or something, that would put it in the -3000 to -2000 range. I checked Bal's DA on his run, it was +2,600. Here it is.

• Mar 01 8:00 pm
• 73 deg F
• 39%
• 28.71 Hg
• 47 deg F
• 49.0
• SE 1 mph
• 92.57 %
• 2620 ft.

Bal's run was done somewhere around 5,000 DA difference, that's a lot. That would have put Tonk's run, with 300 lbs removed, somewhere around an 11.7-11.8. Also notice the wind speed above, it's 1 MPH from the SE. A 1 MPH HEADWIND is not going to turn an 11.7 into a 10.9.

Look guys... I don't have a horse in this race. I would LOVE to see a 10 second Stinger, it's going to happen and I can't wait, but I just don't see it being this one unless there's some mods we don't know about. I know .8 seconds doesn't seem like a lot, but in the low 11's to high 10's, that's a big difference, huge even. Even if he's running a 75 shot, I don't think that's enough, that would net you at best .4 off the ET, it would need to be more like a 150 shot.

My opinion is that his time should not be included until we get more evidence. With what we know it just doesn't add up and it's way too easy for someone to grab a slip and post it. He's clearly really into drag racing, according to Terry he's been running low 11s for awhile now. Not a single picture or video at the track? Odd to say the least. I would either want a video of a run AT LEAST in the low 11s to verify his car is capable of a 10.9 on a good run, or pictures of those extra mods he would need to get his car that fast.

 

[Tonkabob]

Video, or matching dragy or at least a pic of the slip on your car matching the numbers. Especially for the top spot that most agree is about a 75 NOS shot faster than expected and the owner never asking to make the list in the first place.
Admin Angel, make the call!

 

[Doel]

Video, or matching dragy or at least a pic of the slip on your car matching the numbers. Especially for the top spot that most agree is about a 75 NOS shot faster than expected and the owner never asking to make the list in the first place.
Admin Angel, make the call!

I agree with that, if it's a middle of the pack time just the slip is fine, but if it's the top spot there needs to be some sort of corroborating evidence.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Here are the top times as of March 19th, 2019. I think I did this right. Lol

1/4 mile time, speed, 1/8 mile time, speed, 60


1. 10.98 @125.46, 1.79 60ft. 7.35 1/8 @ Bal, modified BMS Jb4, fmic, bbb throttle body, map 8 methanol injection, 285 nittos, borla exhaust, ssr downpipes, just the drivers seat, injen intakes, lightweight water pump, pedal tuner.


2. 11.94 @ 118.11, @STINGER, 7.77 @ 92.99, 1.89

RWD, JB4 map 3, WMI, VT Snorkel, K&N Drop ins, High flow CAT, JunBL mid EVC cat back


3. 11.98 @118.96, @TorkMe, 7.84 @94.03, 1.95

GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork intake, muffler delete, no cats, fmic. 92 Octane


4. 12.07 @ 116.73, @Crewdawg130, 7.85 @92.65, 1.90

GT2 RWD, JB4 map3, intake, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials. 93 octane


5. 12.12 @ 116.82, @Kato_the_kia_stinger 7.91 @92.12, 1.92

AWD, JB4 map8, K&N intake, VT snorkel, WMI, 93 octane


6. 12.13 @116.78, Jesse P turbokits.com, 7.89@ 91.51, 1.87
AWD, Lap3 pro Map 3, Intake, FMIC, no cats, 93 octane.


7. 12.17 @ 116 Michael Locke, 7.95 @ 91.93, 1.95

AWD, Lap3 pro Map2, Injen Intake, lap3 down, SSR Mid, 91 + E30


8. 12.17 @114.71, Kia Bahrain (@STINGER driving)

GT2 RWD Lap3 Uncle, junbl cat back, 100 octane


9. 12.35 @ 115.00, Bryan2.0, 8.05 @90.39, 1.96

AWD JB4 map3, Tork intake, 93 octane + Royal Purple



Dragy*:

1. 11.58* @120.58, @Tonkabob, 7.50 @95.83, 1.82

GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E15 94 octane


2. 11.83* @119.61, @Get Stung, 7.70 @93.83, 1.89

AWD, JB4 Map5, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane+ Boostane


3. 11.87* @ 118.29, @ScottyCole, 7.71 @93.25, 1.88

AWD, Lap3 Pro, K&N Intakes, UP HFC down/mid, Borla Catback, 93 octane + E85


4. 11.91* @120.73, @Terry@BMS, 7.82 @94.96, 2.03

GT RWD, JB4, BMS intake, Water/Methanol injection 50/50, Drag radials, wheels. 30% E85


5. 12.07* @ 113.98, Michael Locke, 7.89 @92.70, 1.95

AWD, Lap3 pro Map2, Injen Intake, no cats. 91 + E30


6. 12.13* @116.6, @KLR STINGER

AWD, JB4 map2, Intakes, Velossa snorkels, Magnaflow Catback, JT FMIC, Lap3 primary dp, JunBl Mid (no cats), Magnaflow Catback, 94 octane e20e30

 

[Angel]

Video, or matching dragy or at least a pic of the slip on your car matching the numbers. Especially for the top spot that most agree is about a 75 NOS shot faster than expected and the owner never asking to make the list in the first place.
Admin Angel, make the call!

I am not on the list so I have nothing to gain or lose if I take him off the list. When I get on the list I will make sure I have videos and slips to provide. I personally don't believe he should be on the list until he can provide more data to back his claim. Like @Doel stated if he can just post a video of running an 11.2-11.5 that will do. The info he provided just does not add up to 10.9 run. I am not saying this to brag or compare. I own a 700 whp Lexus IS 300 with gutted interior that weights about 3200 pounds and my best 1/4 time is 10.8. Note this is a fully built car. I run 305 drag radials and still have traction issues. The information he provided just does not add up to a 10.9 run.

Being at the top spot, he should definitely have more evidence to back his claim. I am just trying to be logical and fair here.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

i am so confused with this group... first NOS was cheating it was a cheat way to get a fast time. Now because we suspect a JB4 User is using NOS its perfectly acceptable (also I agree you RUN what you BRUNG).... I just wont ever get this bias fan boy stuff. I saw with LAP3 on FB and JB4 here. I can see why they segregate so they all feed on their own BS. Yes I have a JB4 and BMS WMI and BMS Oil cap and just got a Burger decal. Im not bias nor blind. I have the SAME exact setup as bal except for a 3mm larger TB and a light weight water pulley lol. I have Mickey Thompsons for the track. I WILL NOT run faster than 11.9. Im just hoping I can hit 11s.

 

[Doel]

i am so confused with this group... first NOS was cheating it was a cheat way to get a fast time. Now because we suspect a JB4 User is using NOS its perfectly acceptable (also I agree you RUN what you BRUNG).... I just wont ever get this bias fan boy stuff. I saw with LAP3 on FB and JB4 here. I can see why they segregate so they all feed on their own BS. Yes I have a JB4 and BMS WMI and BMS Oil cap and just got a Burger decal. Im not bias nor blind. I have the SAME exact setup as bal except for a 3mm larger TB and a light way water pulley lol. I have Mickey Thompsons for the track. I WILL NOT run faster than 11.9. Im just hoping I can hit 11s.

I don't think anyone has been saying running NOS is cheating as in it invalidates a 1/4 mile time, just that it's cheating in the sense it's a cheap/crappy way to get faster times, kind of like pulling out all your seats, center console, mats, headliner, etc etc

The decal should get you into the mid 11s easy

 

[Get Stung]

Angel isnt an admin nor is he the keeper of the list. Doel are you aware that bal is running meth? He also has some add ons that no one else has. As for the removal of dragy times during track season, I have no issue with that in about a month. Our track doesnt open until the 27th of April.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I don't think anyone has been saying running NOS is cheating as in it invalidates a 1/4 mile time, just that it's cheating in the sense it's a cheap/crappy way to get faster times, kind of like pulling out all your seats, center console, mats, headliner, etc etc

The decal should get you into the mid 11s easy

With that decal im just going to post a 8 second slip next to it and be embraced by the fans . I'll say I put extra holes in the bumper for aerodynamics and it made it an 8 second car. That will do about the same as a 3mm larger bored TB.

 

[Angel]

Angel isnt an admin nor is he the keeper of the list. Doel are you aware that bal is running meth? He also has some add ons that no one else has. As for the removal of dragy times during track season, I have no issue with that in about a month. Our track doesnt open until the 27th of April.

I think everyone knows I am not admin nor do I want to be one LOL. I think he was joking when he said that. I have no interest in keeping the list updated, for all I care you can do that or anyone else. All I am trying to say is that we should have a basic set of criteria to put people on the list. Have the supporting evidence to make the playing field fair for everyone, and keep the results honest.

 

[Angel]

Angel isnt an admin nor is he the keeper of the list. Doel are you aware that bal is running meth? He also has some add ons that no one else has. As for the removal of dragy times during track season, I have no issue with that in about a month. Our track doesnt open until the 27th of April.

With that decal im just going to post a 8 second slip next to it and be embraced by the fans . I'll say I put extra holes in the bumper for aerodynamics and it made it an 8 second car. That will do about the same as a 3mm larger bored TB.

How much was the BMS decal, I might buy one lol. I wont put mine on the window thou. I will put mine right on top of the engine cover, that is how you gain the most HP.

 

[Doel]

Angel isnt an admin nor is he the keeper of the list. Doel are you aware that bal is running meth? He also has some add ons that no one else has. As for the removal of dragy times during track season, I have no issue with that in about a month. Our track doesnt open until the 27th of April.

He isn't the first on meth, Terry has been running Meth with drag radials as well. I just don't see a new throttle body bridging such a huge gap in ET. I would llllooovvveeeee to be able to get my car to a 10.9 with just bolt ons and a tune, man that would be something! I really want to believe him, it just doesn't add up with what we know and it isn't even close. Maybe Kia accidentally installed two extra cylinders in his car, who knows.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Remove 300# of weight, strap on a 50 shot, and manage to get good traction on a run, and 10s is easily doable. But the car in question doesn't really want to publicly discuss his modifications it seems.

 

[Get Stung]

Take him off the list he never asked to be on. He doesnt even know there is one. Just funny how some react when thier top spot is threatened. Personally I think he did it. I would love to see him back on. He doesnt frequent the forum much but I'm sure at some point he will be back.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

I would think the only people who should even be considered for thenlist are those who request it. Some people (for very good reasons) may not want to be so “advertised.” Lol

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

How much was the BMS decal, I might buy one lol. I wont put mine on the window thou. I will put mine right on top of the engine cover, that is how you gain the most HP.

I actually got 3 you can have 2. I just wanted one to add to my ricer rear window its stacking up with vendors lol.

 

[terrelltechsup]

Remove 300# of weight, strap on a 50 shot, and manage to get good traction on a run, and 10s is easily doable. But the car in question doesn't really want to publicly discuss his modifications it seems.

I find it funny how a lot of people are like this. They covet their "secret sauce" advantage. Every sport has these types. I for one enjoy sharing the knowledge so the sport as a whole can grow over being the only one with the advantage. I bet if you call the guy and ask him some questions you will find out real quick which type of person he is. You either get overloaded with detailed info and the call lasts 5 hours or you get general "concepts" and it is over in 5 minutes.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Sometimes, a lot of times people just do it for fun or with their local friends and don't care much about the Internet "scene".. It's not the only 11 second Stinger customer we have who has no interest in social media or the car forums. I wish everyone would participate though makes it more fun.

 

[Doel]

or you get general "concepts" and it is over in 5 minutes.

usually when they're hiding one of two things, the secret sauce you're talking about or a big pile of smelly brown stuff typically found in fields that they don't want you to catch a whiff of lol

 

[Angel]

Remove 300# of weight, strap on a 50 shot, and manage to get good traction on a run, and 10s is easily doable. But the car in question doesn't really want to publicly discuss his modifications it seems.

Terry with all your car knowledge and owning/driving 10 seconds cars it is very unlikely. I do understand the car has a JB4 and that is great advertisement to push on the rhetoric that is possible with bolt ons and a little nitrous with a good launch.

I am sure if its was that easy as you make it sound, you would have done it by now or someone else would have done it by now. Someone already swapped a 2JZ to the New Supra before the car even hit the market. At best a full bolt on Stinger on stock turbos and removing 300 pounds plus a 50 shot and a perfect launch would probably get you in 11.2 to 11.6 range at the track. This with drag radial and a great launch.

This is at the Track of course, not on virtual reality its a different conversation. Terry with all your respect is like telling the poor minority inner city kid that there is no racism or prejudice. That if he wants to reach the moon he will with no problems. Lets not sell or push fake dreams. I own a Stinger and would love for the car to be that fast with such mods but its not realistically possible. Now if you say bigger turbos with nitrous or wmi, drag radials and ecu/tcu tune that can update launch control then I am all ears.

Even if Bal didn't want to publicly discuss his modifications is irrelevant to the fact that 10.9 is possible. Terry I can go the bank right now and ask for a loan for a the new Supra and tell the loan banker that I make a six figure income, that I own 2 houses in Illinois and 2 apartments in Puerto Rico. I can also tell them all my cars are paid off except the my wife car the Stinger. The banker is not just going to jut give me the loan for the new car. None of that will matter to the banker unless I have the proof to back it up. The W2 forms, tax returns etc....

Unless someone can post a video of a 10.9 run on stinger, it can't be validated. We can say well if you have this and that........but things don't work that way in real life.