Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

[washguy]

Heres the real deal on Dragy slope...Ive been to and raced on more tracks than you young men have seen so far in your racing endeavors....and some of those tracks have more slope on em than dragy will let you have a valid run on the street....what Im saying is just because its a freakin dragstrip doesn't mean crap as far as whether its a flat as a billard table raceway.....ive seen em with a hump at the 1/8th mile section and several that run downhill....so Im in the camp that sez its even harder to put down a good number on a street that doesn't have a 1/4 inch of VHT on the top of it all prepped up and tacky....Wash

 

[Angel]

Wonder if the driver counts for anything? Wash

Idk man ..... he’ll i can’t be that bad of a driver .... it’s draggy man it add 100 hp .... I am not the best driver on the world but I have my share of experience man ... for the past 5 years I go to the 1/4 track every weekend and drive my car down the strip during the summer months April - September ... I also do a track course event at least once a month .... I am a decent driver....not sure maybe it’s me lol ..... or the draggy adding HP ....

Heres the real deal on Dragy slope...Ive been to and raced on more tracks than you young men have seen so far in your racing endeavors....and some of those tracks have more slope on em than dragy will let you have a valid run on the street....what Im saying is just because its a freakin dragstrip doesn't mean crap as far as whether its a flat as a billard table raceway.....ive seen em with a hump at the 1/8th mile section and several that run downhill....so Im in the camp that sez its even harder to put down a good number on a street that doesn't have a 1/4 inch of VHT on the top of it all prepped up and tacky....Wash

I guess draggy is cool but so far in my book Tork is the only car on the 11’s seconds .... there the only one that has done at the strip .... now until i see another stinger do it we will see this summer ... hell I think tonka Bob , bears for life , Anthony and hopefully myself will get to the 11’s at the strip and maybe Terry if he hits an actual drag strip with wmi...

 

[Blitz]

you got the recipe right

Pulled just a bit with downpipes after installation today. Holy moly that is extremely noticeable...

 

[SteveCo]

... and some of those tracks have more slope on em than dragy will let you have a valid run on the street....

Yes, Western Canada had a lot of air training bases in the second world war, and a number of them became drag strips when they weren't needed after the war. Too bad city expansion claimed ours.

Contrary to popular belief, a lot of runways aren't exactly level, especially in or near the mountains. This in Courchevel in France, with an upslope of almost 19 degrees - just getting there can be an experience ...

 

[Tonkabob]

Heres the real deal on Dragy slope...Ive been to and raced on more tracks than you young men have seen so far in your racing endeavors....and some of those tracks have more slope on em than dragy will let you have a valid run on the street....what Im saying is just because its a freakin dragstrip doesn't mean crap as far as whether its a flat as a billard table raceway.....ive seen em with a hump at the 1/8th mile section and several that run downhill....so Im in the camp that sez its even harder to put down a good number on a street that doesn't have a 1/4 inch of VHT on the top of it all prepped up and tacky....Wash

Pacific raceways where Tork and i go runs national events, top fuel, so i suspect that one is pretty damn flat.

 

[washguy]

Pacific raceways where Tork and i go runs national events, top fuel, so i suspect that one is pretty damn flat.

Ill bet it is too ! Wash

 

[Tonkabob]

what's stopping you from setting it up. It's a measuring stick at the very least. Install is about as easy as it gets download the app and press connect.

Do you have logs of your 1/4 mile runs? Even before the dump valves your car is faster than other Jb4 cars with more mods.
Careful at 19 degrees with summer tires. Michelin has a warning about cracking the tires at 20 degrees.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Heres the real deal on Dragy slope...Ive been to and raced on more tracks than you young men have seen so far in your racing endeavors....and some of those tracks have more slope on em than dragy will let you have a valid run on the street....what Im saying is just because its a freakin dragstrip doesn't mean crap as far as whether its a flat as a billard table raceway.....ive seen em with a hump at the 1/8th mile section and several that run downhill....so Im in the camp that sez its even harder to put down a good number on a street that doesn't have a 1/4 inch of VHT on the top of it all prepped up and tacky....Wash

I used to race at a strip called Carlsbad Raceway that ran a good 2% down hill, and on the way back to the lanes you had to drive across a small creek down a dirt hill... Lol. Not all strips are created equal. But at the end of the day comparing times on the net is just all good fun. The real grudges are settled with cars side by side.

 

[brancky3]

Do you have logs of your 1/4 mile runs? Even before the dump valves your car is faster than other Jb4 cars with more mods.

Could be weather related - his car is probably pulling lower IATs right now being wintercooled as a car with a real FMIC. Aside from that the dumps will make a huge difference. Also, look past the ET and compare his trap speed to other cars as that is the real indicator of how powerful a car is; Terry is trapping 4mph faster than him which is huge. A race from a roll wouldn't be close.

 

[Get Stung]

Do you have logs of your 1/4 mile runs? Even before the dump valves your car is faster than other Jb4 cars with more mods.
Careful at 19 degrees with summer tires. Michelin has a warning about cracking the tires at 20 degrees.

Yes I do, would ya like a copy? I'm AWD on 18s all seasons. In my opinion the only mods that really make a difference is the tune and a less restrictive exhaust. I'm about to do intakes but I dont expect much. If you would like a peek at the log just send me your email. The other BIG factor is temperature at 19 degrees she flies.
I expect to beat that time in my next attempt.

 

[Tonkabob]

Comparing AWD and RWD Traps doesn't make much sense as does comparing their 60 foots. Get Stungs traps are inline with other 12.1 AWDs. Get Stung 11.98*@ 116.8, Jesse P 12.13 @116.78, KLR Stinger 12.13*@ 116.6.

 

[washguy]

In figuring out the best working combination for your car......sometimes "less" is "more" putting every dadgum mod on your car just because the mfg. sez it will add this HP or that HP is just a sucker play...Ive been there done that.....but the fact is ,putting everything that's available on your ride doesn't mean its going to live up to expectations as advertised..... Wash

 

[Angel]

In figuring out the best working combination for your car......sometimes "less" is "more" putting every dadgum mod on your car just because the mfg. sez it will add this HP or that HP is just a sucker play...Ive been there done that.....but the fact is ,putting everything that's available on your ride doesn't mean its going to live up to expectations as advertised..... Wash

No just need you as a driver mod .... lol There is the 11 second car right there

 

[brancky3]

Comparing AWD and RWD Traps doesn't make much sense as does comparing their 60 foots. Get Stungs traps are inline with other 12.1 AWDs. Get Stung 11.98*@ 116.8, Jesse P 12.13 @116.78, KLR Stinger 12.13*@ 116.6.

You're right, it doesn't make sense to compare traps when only looking at ETs as the launch more or less determines the ET. But, if Terry's car (120+mph trap) and any of those cars you listed (116+mph trap) were rolling down the highway and did a <50> to <120>mph race there would be a bus length between them. I realize this is a 1/4 mile thread, but I can't stand when people don't pay attention to the trap speed.

 

[Angel]

You're right, it doesn't make sense to compare traps when only looking at ETs as the launch more or less determines the ET. But, if Terry's car (120+mph trap) and any of those cars you listed (116+mph trap) were rolling down the highway and did a <50> to <120>mph race there would be a bus length between them. I realize this is a 1/4 mile thread, but I can't stand when people don't pay attention to the trap speed.

Agree !!!! Terry Stinger # Quickest Stinger in world # Highest Trap speed Matters

 

[brancky3]

Agree !!!! Terry Stinger # Quickest Stinger in world # Highest Trap speed Matters

OK, let's use a better example.
Two cars: A 2019 Vette ZR1 vs a 2016 Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4. Per Car and Driver:
Vette: 10.8 @ 135mph
Lambo: 10.4 @ 135mph

Watch this video starting at 3:00 to see them race from a stop. Clearly, the Lambo wins.
Now, watch the video starting at 4:40 to see them race from 40mph - 150mph. Trap speeds are the same and the roll race clearly demonstrates that.

Now watch another video (starting at 6:36) of the ZR1 roll racing a McLaren 720S that traps 10mph faster (McLaren runs a 10.2 @ 145mph)

I hope you're following me and you realize that a 10mph trap speed difference is substantial. Of course this is more than our Stingers are running, but you should get the point that ~4-5 mph difference in trap speeds will make a huge difference.

If you missed the point and think the Lambo would be faster since the 1/4 mile ET is closer, watch it get destroyed at 1:50 in this video:

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I still dont get what all this stuff has to do with 1/4 mile times. The funniest is I think one person is trying to explain how Terry's Car would win in a Roll Race to himself since no one else is asking about it.

 

[brancky3]

I still dont get what all this stuff has to do with 1/4 mile times. The funniest is I think one person is trying to explain how Terry's Car would win in a Roll Race to himself since no one else is asking about it.

I'm not specifically trying to say that Terry's car would win anything, but my post is a response to Tonkabob saying "Do you have logs of your 1/4 mile runs? Even before the dump valves your car is faster than other Jb4 cars with more mods.". My point was that his (Get Stung's) car is NOT faster / making more power than cars with more mods; this is evident because the trap speeds are similar. Get Stung can launch his car because he has AWD, enabling him to run 11s. Running an 11.9 vs a 12.1 is NOT indicative of more power (when trap speeds are the same), it only means that he had more traction.

 

[Angel]

I still dont get what all this stuff has to do with 1/4 mile times. The funniest is I think one person is trying to explain how Terry's Car would win in a Roll Race to himself since no one else is asking about it.

Thank you sir .... I am lost ...... # Trap speed matter # quickest stinger in the world

 

[Tonkabob]

OK, let's use a better example.
Two cars: A 2019 Vette ZR1 vs a 2016 Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4. Per Car and Driver:
Vette: 10.8 @ 135mph
Lambo: 10.4 @ 135mph

Watch this video starting at 3:00 to see them race from a stop. Clearly, the Lambo wins.
Now, watch the video starting at 4:40 to see them race from 40mph - 150mph. Trap speeds are the same and the roll race clearly demonstrates that.

Now watch another video (starting at 6:36) of the ZR1 roll racing a McLaren 720S that traps 10mph faster (McLaren runs a 10.2 @ 145mph)

I hope you're following me and you realize that a 10mph trap speed difference is substantial. Of course this is more than our Stingers are running, but you should get the point that ~4-5 mph difference in trap speeds will make a huge difference.

If you missed the point and think the Lambo would be faster since the 1/4 mile ET is closer, watch it get destroyed at 1:50 in this video:

I think we can all understand the physics behind power, weight, traction, drive train loss. You really need to start a roll race thread.
I heard NHRA is starting a roll race series! Ok just kidding.