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Possible ISG (Idle Stop and Go) permanent disabling.

Discussion in 'Kia Stinger Technology Discussion' started by Rango, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. StingerBee

    StingerBee Singapore Member

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    Fully agree that it should be setable
     
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  2. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    All I know is this ISG (Idle Stop and Go) is turning me into a lunatic yelling at the car the first time I stop and someone is next to me at a stop light and it turns off cuz I forgot to turn it off. its driving me insane please someone lets put our brains together and come up with a solution to this thing!!!!! lol I was thinking of mounting a hidden switch to turn it off on its own on each start up so I don't have to worry about it but the brake pedal pressure sensor also makes sense move it out of the way,no warranty voided nothing messed with and can be put back in place for dealer work. but its literally making me crazy and when ever people ask me about the car I ALWAYS mention that damn thing and how that's the only thing I HATE and HATE with a passion about the car!!! this feature is my printer from the movie office space !! if I could id take a bat to it !!
     
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  3. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Canada Active Member

    Is it that difficult to only press the brake pedal hard enough to stop and hold the car from moving, because that disables ISG (Idle Stop and Go)? It only triggers when you stomp the pedal harder than is necessary, which might be your learned behaviour from years of driving cars with power brakes. Try it--it's not that difficult and it helps you to use your brakes properly in the process.
     
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  4. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    Ya know I have noticed something with this group or forum what ever you want to call it, some people on here always have to criticize what others have to say when they state there opinion or idea about anything almost like the majority of Ferrari drivers look down on the guy with the done up ford fiesta instead of just keeping quiet or just saying hey man your car is nice to great job! so what I have to say to you my friend is maybe I don't want to think in my head every damn time I stop... watch you brake pressure watch it or the stupid ISG (Idle Stop and Go) will come on. maybe I just would like to find a way to disable it to accommodate the way I put pressure on my brake pedal I am not " stomping the pedal" I'm applying normal brake pressure ... so maybe you can apply brake pressure better than me you are obviously a pedal pressure specialist,one day I hope to be as good as you at applying the brakes. I'm done making my point now but damn everyone,this is getting sickening. I was hoping stinger owners had the same family like atmosphere as Subaru owners did before I left that family of 20 loyal years but I'm starting to realize that's not the case at least here its not. Also any admin or moderator that gets involved in this cuz I'm sure it will blow out of proportion cuz I just stated my option once again and ill get my balls busted saying I don't know how to drive or the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) wouldn't activate blah blah you need to moderate these type of people who down you for your opinions or ideas and not " ban" the civil open minded friendly people.

     
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  5. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Canada Active Member

    It's really not that big a deal. I was totally opposed to "always on" ISG (Idle Stop and Go) until I found out about the dual pedal pressure thing. Most people, including KIA sales people, don't know about it and it's not described in the manual. Solves the issue for most.

    You know about and have tried it and still don't like it to be on. That's why they have the disable switch.

    That's not good enough--you want it off permanently. Well, I would like the car not to reset to Comfort mode and stay in Custom, but it's not going to happen due to KIA not wanting to post the real fuel economy of this car (see other threads for evidence of real world mileage). I can learn to swivel the dual, or cry and rant about it.

    There are lots of other things that do not affect regulations that KIA also chose to set to defaults or to not give us the ability to change, even when it would be easy and cost nothing or next to nothing. Welcome to consumer products with design choices that are often frustrating.
     
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  6. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    YA know I have read this response about 5 times now and I don't know how to respond to it should i defend my opinion on something sure should I defend myself to someone who thinks there better than me no so I'm simply no going to respond and ill leave it at that.
     
  7. DigitalGuru18

    DigitalGuru18 United States Member

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    I fully agree with StingetGTT. People simply cannot state their opinions or frustrations on this forum without someone else jumping all over them for it. What the hell is wrong with people these days? Is it so terrible and awful for people to expect to have full control over the $40,000 cars that they buy? Yes, there are rules to be read and followed for anyone posting here. But if those rules are ignored and not enforced, what good are they?? If StingerGTT and I have offended anyone by stating the obvious, we do apologize.
     
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  8. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    Well said my friend well said....
     
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  9. I agree, I would rather it be disabled and allow me to enable it with the bush of the button than the other way around.
     
  10. robz32

    robz32 United States Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    That is great!!....Do you have any additional information on this?
     
  11. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    moderator is here like predicted. please listen to what I have said and moderate !!!!! the module is a great idea all though I wonder what it voids warranty wise. Stinger owners need to come together and be family like not the I'm better than you your opinion is stupid your stupid and what you think does not matter. set a nice rule something like please don't look down on other Stinger owners for there opinions, ideas or creations keep it family like you will be suspended first offense and the second will end your involvement permanently in this family like atmosphere of a forum.
     
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  12. mldavis2

    mldavis2 United States Stinger Enthusiast

    At the risk of being run off of this forum, has anyone considered a slight adjustment of the brake pedal switch that activates the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) function? I have always applied just enough brake pedal pressure during a stop to prevent the car from rolling which never turns the engine off unless I'm on a rather steep grade. Perhaps @StingerGTT's switch is adjusted too close to the top. It's worth a check.
     
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  13. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Canada Active Member

    Run off the forum...yes, instead of giving useful suggestions, you'e apparently supposed to rant and rail against other people because they don't agree 100% with your perspective...

    Another possibility for those who can't modulate a brake pedal is to see if the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) has it's own fuse. Can anyone confirm? If it has it's own fuse, pulling it could solve the issue by disabling ISG (Idle Stop and Go) "permanently."
     
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  14. I played with the light pressure and proved it works 2 months ago. It does work, but I'd much rather not deal with it. The last few BMWs I had with it allowed me to set it on or off- this is the proper way it should be.

    I hate the option. I'll totally disable this feature as soon as possible. It is annoying as hell to many of us, but am happy for those who like it.
     
  15. KLR STINGER

    KLR STINGER Canada Member

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    I'm sure once tuning is available this will be something that can be modified. This is common in the Benz world
     
  16. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    A tune would be great to turn it off I hope that does become available the pressure switch may work I just have to find it. the fuse would just be way to easy I wonder what else is on that circuit hopefully nothing I will have to try these ideas, I mean we cant all be brake pressure specialists after all. I do have to say the aggravation from sharing my opinion and getting in my car each time has fully reminded me to turn it off in the past few days.
     
  17. KLR STINGER

    KLR STINGER Canada Member

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    Not withstanding a tune, another option for override is for a CAN module that sends the disable signal on start up. Plugs in to the CAN Harness somewhere easy to access. It's another common approach.
     
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  18. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    hum and where would one find this device ? lol
     
  19. Berzerker

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    He did nothing to imply anything of the sort that his opinion was "better" than anyone's, nor did he "look down," on anyone. I would question your attitude here if you took that post and came up with that outcome. Just like you are fully allowed to post your opinions, others are fully allowed to disagree with them and "not understand" why others would feel that way.

    Again, I like ISG (Idle Stop and Go), and I'm not going to berate you for not liking it, but I sure as hell am going to wonder why you don't and express that. It does not diminish your opinion, nor does it create an "unfriendly" atmosphere.

    And, pestering mods to "moderate" something that isn't an issue doesn't help anyone, either.
     
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  20. StingerGTT

    StingerGTT United States Member

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    I would read the post I referred to a few more times bud ! Unless ur just like he is then you wouldn’t pick up on it. My attitude is just fine I have never seen such ignorance in something that’s supposed to me a club like atmosphere. ALOT of people here see what I write and DM me and say don’t bother stating your opinion in here u will get critized sarcastically and belittled,so do like I do and just don’t respond or post anything. so I’m not the only one that notices it.
     
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