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Can Someone Explain Torque?

Discussion in 'Engine, Drivetrain, and Exhaust Discussion' started by RJStinger, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. RJStinger

    RJStinger United States Member

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    I keep on seeing on multiple reviews of the GT how the Torque kicks in very early. One review was explaining why the GT2 beats a mustang with much higher HP in a quarter mile race but then looses over the longer run.

    I kinda understand what the torque is but I don't understand why other carmakers also don't make the Torque kick in much earlier (dunno if that makes sense)? Is it bad for the engine?
     
  2. RVance

    RVance United States Member Sustaining Member

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    The twin turbos help achieve maximum torque at low rpm, which is great for the relatively small displacement engines of today. It is not bad for the engine. Naturally aspirated, non-turbo/blown engines can be tuned for low end power (like my 1989 5.0), or lots of power across all rpm bands (like a Ferrari 4 cammer). BTW, a new Mustang should beat the Stinger by about a second in the quarter mile. It's a beast.
     
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  3. 67GP

    67GP Australia Newish Member

    HP is how Fast you hit the wall & Torque is how Far you'll take the wall... sorry couldn't help it
     
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  4. Stinger GT SS

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    Horsepower is the total power output of an engine, while torque measures the “turning/torquing ability” of the engine. Practically, torque is a better measurement of how quickly your car will accelerate, while horsepower (relative to weight) is a better measure of your car's top speed. (Not my words, taken from other informative source)
     
  5. DiabloStinger

    DiabloStinger United States Active Member

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    Moar is better
     
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  6. Tonkabob

    Tonkabob United States Active Member

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    Low rpm torque also means low rpm horse power (hp is just the work/ application of torque through rpm). Broader hp band can be faster than a higher peak hp. Plus the Stinger seems to be little under rated.
     
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  7. SEA Stinger

    SEA Stinger United States Active Member Sustaining Member

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    In simple, practical terms, torque determines acceleration and horsepower determines maximum speed.
     
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  8. AV8R

    AV8R Australia 2500 Posts Club! Staff Member Moderator

    Moar?
     
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  9. SEA Stinger

    SEA Stinger United States Active Member Sustaining Member

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    Maybe that means more, in a loud way? (More+Roar=Moar)
     
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  10. AV8R

    AV8R Australia 2500 Posts Club! Staff Member Moderator

    Spellcheck 101 lol like moaderator ! :rofl:
     
  11. SEA Stinger

    SEA Stinger United States Active Member Sustaining Member

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    Oh man, don't get me started about rampant misspelling and misuse of words. I attribute some of it to carryover from texting on phones.
     
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  12. Tonkabob

    Tonkabob United States Active Member

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    Hp = T x RPM / 5252 . HP determines both acceleration and top speed. But at what RPM you make T determines HP. Diesels make tons of T but don't rev high so therefore dont make much HP and are not fast. But they do tow well.
    Bringing in T early and holding it to a high RPM makes useable HP.
     
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  13. AV8R

    AV8R Australia 2500 Posts Club! Staff Member Moderator

    Yup
     
  14. SEA Stinger

    SEA Stinger United States Active Member Sustaining Member

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    Do you mean defiantly? :rolleyes:
     
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  15. SEA Stinger

    SEA Stinger United States Active Member Sustaining Member

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    Ok, now I have a couple of questions:
    1. Could two different engines with the same horsepower produce different torque at the same RPM?
    2. Suppose two cars have different engines with the same horsepower. Could one car be able to accelerate more quickly than the other?
     
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  16. eflyguy

    eflyguy United States Stinger Enthusiast Staff Member Moderator

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    1. yes
    2. yes
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    I would have posted the EE video myself - he does a great job of explaining it.
     
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  17. jdogonroad

    jdogonroad United States Member

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    Torque as explained to me in Army Flight School: “Torque is when you wake up with a piss hard, and try to hit the bowl”.
     
  18. DiabloStinger

    DiabloStinger United States Active Member

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    Moar is a common colloquial idiom used by the teens back in the early 2010s. Glad it sparked some intelligent conversation. Haha!
     
  19. Helo58

    Helo58 United States Active Member

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    A rare time that you increase torque while attempting to decrease the collective... o_O
     
  20. Ivansito

    Ivansito United States Active Member

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    I too find myself looking from the outside looking in when it comes to hp/ trq . What is the community collective guesstamation or estimation on how much KIA has underrated the HP/Trq? And what purpose, if in fact they knew, would they have purposely done that?
     
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